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false accusation of trademark abuse

I have been accused of trademark abuse. I have the following listing:

Cartridge and Stylus, needle with mounting bolts fits YAMAHA PF800

This listing is not for a Yamaha part but for a part that fits a Yamaha

Apparently I cannot change the word "FITS" to "FOR" either but I can change it to "compatible with"

Can anybody explain what the difference is?

If it fits a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If its for a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If it is compatible with a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

I have been in contact with CS about this several times but I just get the same lazy response

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false accusation of trademark abuse

I have been accused of trademark abuse. I have the following listing:

Cartridge and Stylus, needle with mounting bolts fits YAMAHA PF800

This listing is not for a Yamaha part but for a part that fits a Yamaha

Apparently I cannot change the word "FITS" to "FOR" either but I can change it to "compatible with"

Can anybody explain what the difference is?

If it fits a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If its for a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If it is compatible with a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

I have been in contact with CS about this several times but I just get the same lazy response

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Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4

Amazon's policy says you should've been fine:

Title format for branded compatible products

[Your Product’s Brand Name] + [Product Name] + “for”/”compatible with”/”fits”/”intended for” + [Brand of Main Product] + [Main Product Name] + (other product title elements, if applicable)

Examples:

Xandu USB charging cable, compatible with AmazonBasics speaker

TonTon Sleeve intended for Kindle Fire

Title format for generic compatible products

“Generic” + [Product Name] + “for”/”compatible with”/”fits”/”intended for” + [Brand of Main Product] + [Main Product Name] + (other product title elements, if applicable)

Example:

Generic replacement filter for AmazonBasics water filter A3

Taken from https://sellercentral.amazon.co.uk/help/hub/reference/G201361070

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Seller_ae51e0CJoHqCX

can you not change it to compatible with?

I can see the difference and I think it is fair. If you have a yamaha part and say it's for the yamaha PF800, then to be fair, it doesn't state whether this is a genuine yamaha part or not.

If you say something is compatible, then you are just saying exactly that, it isn't official but should do the job.

Look at it this way, if I said I had the latest charger to fit your latest iphone, then you may assume it to be an iphone charger. If I said I had a charger that is compatible with your iphone, you would assume it not to an iphone charger but should work on it and doesn't claim to have an association with iphone.

It's not so much the statement but the interpretation and what it could imply.

You are lucky you can use Yamaha at all. I once got pulled up for saying you could write something on an item with a sharpie. Even though I was not endorsing sharpie or making any claims it was still deemed as an infringement. I had to change it to permanent marker.

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It says that it is for a Yamaha PF800 it does not say it is a Yamaha part.

That is not confusing

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When you've been told by a customer and a totally independent fellow seller that they find the wording ambiguous you may want to take the feedback aboard.

If I were to buy a steering wheel for a Ford Focus I would expect a genuine Ford part. If I were to but a steering wheel compatable with a Ford Focus I would expect a pattern part.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Ahh - I see the issue.

As per @Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4 - its accurate that the term fits followed by the brand name is correct.

The issue is, your title, going on it being Cartridge and Stylus, needle with mounting bolts fits YAMAHA PF800 doesn't include your brand name, or the term Generic.

Consequently - it looks like amazon are identifying Yamahas as the first brand name in the title, hence the issue.

I agree that is probably is easier to just amend it to say what amazon have told you to state but you also need to amend and include your brand name (if it has one) or the term Generic at the start of the product name.

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Julia_Amzn

Hello @Seller_7XJpMiflyYEe1,

Thank you for bringing this example up.

Would you like to share ASIN number or case ID so I could review it?

Thank you,

Julia.

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false accusation of trademark abuse

I have been accused of trademark abuse. I have the following listing:

Cartridge and Stylus, needle with mounting bolts fits YAMAHA PF800

This listing is not for a Yamaha part but for a part that fits a Yamaha

Apparently I cannot change the word "FITS" to "FOR" either but I can change it to "compatible with"

Can anybody explain what the difference is?

If it fits a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If its for a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If it is compatible with a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

I have been in contact with CS about this several times but I just get the same lazy response

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false accusation of trademark abuse

I have been accused of trademark abuse. I have the following listing:

Cartridge and Stylus, needle with mounting bolts fits YAMAHA PF800

This listing is not for a Yamaha part but for a part that fits a Yamaha

Apparently I cannot change the word "FITS" to "FOR" either but I can change it to "compatible with"

Can anybody explain what the difference is?

If it fits a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If its for a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If it is compatible with a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

I have been in contact with CS about this several times but I just get the same lazy response

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false accusation of trademark abuse

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I have been accused of trademark abuse. I have the following listing:

Cartridge and Stylus, needle with mounting bolts fits YAMAHA PF800

This listing is not for a Yamaha part but for a part that fits a Yamaha

Apparently I cannot change the word "FITS" to "FOR" either but I can change it to "compatible with"

Can anybody explain what the difference is?

If it fits a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If its for a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

If it is compatible with a Yamaha - it is a part that fits a Yamaha it does not claim to be Yamaha

I have been in contact with CS about this several times but I just get the same lazy response

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Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4

Amazon's policy says you should've been fine:

Title format for branded compatible products

[Your Product’s Brand Name] + [Product Name] + “for”/”compatible with”/”fits”/”intended for” + [Brand of Main Product] + [Main Product Name] + (other product title elements, if applicable)

Examples:

Xandu USB charging cable, compatible with AmazonBasics speaker

TonTon Sleeve intended for Kindle Fire

Title format for generic compatible products

“Generic” + [Product Name] + “for”/”compatible with”/”fits”/”intended for” + [Brand of Main Product] + [Main Product Name] + (other product title elements, if applicable)

Example:

Generic replacement filter for AmazonBasics water filter A3

Taken from https://sellercentral.amazon.co.uk/help/hub/reference/G201361070

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Seller_ae51e0CJoHqCX

can you not change it to compatible with?

I can see the difference and I think it is fair. If you have a yamaha part and say it's for the yamaha PF800, then to be fair, it doesn't state whether this is a genuine yamaha part or not.

If you say something is compatible, then you are just saying exactly that, it isn't official but should do the job.

Look at it this way, if I said I had the latest charger to fit your latest iphone, then you may assume it to be an iphone charger. If I said I had a charger that is compatible with your iphone, you would assume it not to an iphone charger but should work on it and doesn't claim to have an association with iphone.

It's not so much the statement but the interpretation and what it could imply.

You are lucky you can use Yamaha at all. I once got pulled up for saying you could write something on an item with a sharpie. Even though I was not endorsing sharpie or making any claims it was still deemed as an infringement. I had to change it to permanent marker.

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It says that it is for a Yamaha PF800 it does not say it is a Yamaha part.

That is not confusing

View post

When you've been told by a customer and a totally independent fellow seller that they find the wording ambiguous you may want to take the feedback aboard.

If I were to buy a steering wheel for a Ford Focus I would expect a genuine Ford part. If I were to but a steering wheel compatable with a Ford Focus I would expect a pattern part.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Ahh - I see the issue.

As per @Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4 - its accurate that the term fits followed by the brand name is correct.

The issue is, your title, going on it being Cartridge and Stylus, needle with mounting bolts fits YAMAHA PF800 doesn't include your brand name, or the term Generic.

Consequently - it looks like amazon are identifying Yamahas as the first brand name in the title, hence the issue.

I agree that is probably is easier to just amend it to say what amazon have told you to state but you also need to amend and include your brand name (if it has one) or the term Generic at the start of the product name.

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Julia_Amzn

Hello @Seller_7XJpMiflyYEe1,

Thank you for bringing this example up.

Would you like to share ASIN number or case ID so I could review it?

Thank you,

Julia.

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Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4

Amazon's policy says you should've been fine:

Title format for branded compatible products

[Your Product’s Brand Name] + [Product Name] + “for”/”compatible with”/”fits”/”intended for” + [Brand of Main Product] + [Main Product Name] + (other product title elements, if applicable)

Examples:

Xandu USB charging cable, compatible with AmazonBasics speaker

TonTon Sleeve intended for Kindle Fire

Title format for generic compatible products

“Generic” + [Product Name] + “for”/”compatible with”/”fits”/”intended for” + [Brand of Main Product] + [Main Product Name] + (other product title elements, if applicable)

Example:

Generic replacement filter for AmazonBasics water filter A3

Taken from https://sellercentral.amazon.co.uk/help/hub/reference/G201361070

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Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4

Amazon's policy says you should've been fine:

Title format for branded compatible products

[Your Product’s Brand Name] + [Product Name] + “for”/”compatible with”/”fits”/”intended for” + [Brand of Main Product] + [Main Product Name] + (other product title elements, if applicable)

Examples:

Xandu USB charging cable, compatible with AmazonBasics speaker

TonTon Sleeve intended for Kindle Fire

Title format for generic compatible products

“Generic” + [Product Name] + “for”/”compatible with”/”fits”/”intended for” + [Brand of Main Product] + [Main Product Name] + (other product title elements, if applicable)

Example:

Generic replacement filter for AmazonBasics water filter A3

Taken from https://sellercentral.amazon.co.uk/help/hub/reference/G201361070

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Seller_ae51e0CJoHqCX

can you not change it to compatible with?

I can see the difference and I think it is fair. If you have a yamaha part and say it's for the yamaha PF800, then to be fair, it doesn't state whether this is a genuine yamaha part or not.

If you say something is compatible, then you are just saying exactly that, it isn't official but should do the job.

Look at it this way, if I said I had the latest charger to fit your latest iphone, then you may assume it to be an iphone charger. If I said I had a charger that is compatible with your iphone, you would assume it not to an iphone charger but should work on it and doesn't claim to have an association with iphone.

It's not so much the statement but the interpretation and what it could imply.

You are lucky you can use Yamaha at all. I once got pulled up for saying you could write something on an item with a sharpie. Even though I was not endorsing sharpie or making any claims it was still deemed as an infringement. I had to change it to permanent marker.

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Seller_ae51e0CJoHqCX

can you not change it to compatible with?

I can see the difference and I think it is fair. If you have a yamaha part and say it's for the yamaha PF800, then to be fair, it doesn't state whether this is a genuine yamaha part or not.

If you say something is compatible, then you are just saying exactly that, it isn't official but should do the job.

Look at it this way, if I said I had the latest charger to fit your latest iphone, then you may assume it to be an iphone charger. If I said I had a charger that is compatible with your iphone, you would assume it not to an iphone charger but should work on it and doesn't claim to have an association with iphone.

It's not so much the statement but the interpretation and what it could imply.

You are lucky you can use Yamaha at all. I once got pulled up for saying you could write something on an item with a sharpie. Even though I was not endorsing sharpie or making any claims it was still deemed as an infringement. I had to change it to permanent marker.

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It says that it is for a Yamaha PF800 it does not say it is a Yamaha part.

That is not confusing

View post

When you've been told by a customer and a totally independent fellow seller that they find the wording ambiguous you may want to take the feedback aboard.

If I were to buy a steering wheel for a Ford Focus I would expect a genuine Ford part. If I were to but a steering wheel compatable with a Ford Focus I would expect a pattern part.

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It says that it is for a Yamaha PF800 it does not say it is a Yamaha part.

That is not confusing

View post

When you've been told by a customer and a totally independent fellow seller that they find the wording ambiguous you may want to take the feedback aboard.

If I were to buy a steering wheel for a Ford Focus I would expect a genuine Ford part. If I were to but a steering wheel compatable with a Ford Focus I would expect a pattern part.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Ahh - I see the issue.

As per @Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4 - its accurate that the term fits followed by the brand name is correct.

The issue is, your title, going on it being Cartridge and Stylus, needle with mounting bolts fits YAMAHA PF800 doesn't include your brand name, or the term Generic.

Consequently - it looks like amazon are identifying Yamahas as the first brand name in the title, hence the issue.

I agree that is probably is easier to just amend it to say what amazon have told you to state but you also need to amend and include your brand name (if it has one) or the term Generic at the start of the product name.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Ahh - I see the issue.

As per @Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4 - its accurate that the term fits followed by the brand name is correct.

The issue is, your title, going on it being Cartridge and Stylus, needle with mounting bolts fits YAMAHA PF800 doesn't include your brand name, or the term Generic.

Consequently - it looks like amazon are identifying Yamahas as the first brand name in the title, hence the issue.

I agree that is probably is easier to just amend it to say what amazon have told you to state but you also need to amend and include your brand name (if it has one) or the term Generic at the start of the product name.

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Julia_Amzn

Hello @Seller_7XJpMiflyYEe1,

Thank you for bringing this example up.

Would you like to share ASIN number or case ID so I could review it?

Thank you,

Julia.

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Julia_Amzn

Hello @Seller_7XJpMiflyYEe1,

Thank you for bringing this example up.

Would you like to share ASIN number or case ID so I could review it?

Thank you,

Julia.

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