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Advice for NEW Vat Registered Business - Calculating Profit After VAT

Hello,

I'm recently needing to become VAT registered on Amazon FBA, I'm happy that our business is growing but this is a milestone we all potentially go through and I'm naturally nervous about it

I'd like to check my thinking/calculations with some of the more experienced members - I hope this okay, I intend to keep my prices the same to remain competitive

I believe I can just use net figures to simplify the calculation now that I'll be VAT registered, with the important bit being that I am starting with the Net Sales Price, as the VAT on the sales price is passed on to the government

So, assuming that I am now VAT registered in the UK, my new profit calculation would be (assuming I'm not advertising, not including storage or sending to amazon etc):

  • Profit = Net Sales price - Net Referral Fee - Net Fulfilment Fee - Net Cost of Good

Translated to include consideration of VAT

  • Profit = (Gross sales price (incl VAT) - Sales VAT) - Gross Referral Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Fulfilment Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Cost of Good (incl VAT) + Referral VAT + Fulfilment VAT + Cost of Good VAT

These equations are basically the same and give the same answer, note that I am reclaiming the input vat from the Referral, Fulfilment and Cost of Good

An example

  • Gross Sale Price = 2.99
  • Sale Price VAT = 0.5
  • Net Sale Price = 2.5
  • Net Cost of Good = 0.38
  • Net Referral Fee = 0.46
  • Net Fulfilment Fee = 1.52

Profit = 2.5 - 0.38 - 0.46 - 1.52 = 0.14

Could you please review and tell me if this is correct? is using net figures the sensible technique to use?

Additionally, as a new VAT registered seller, what would you recommend to do for a pain free transition and VAT registration experience :)

Many thanks for your help!

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Advice for NEW Vat Registered Business - Calculating Profit After VAT

Hello,

I'm recently needing to become VAT registered on Amazon FBA, I'm happy that our business is growing but this is a milestone we all potentially go through and I'm naturally nervous about it

I'd like to check my thinking/calculations with some of the more experienced members - I hope this okay, I intend to keep my prices the same to remain competitive

I believe I can just use net figures to simplify the calculation now that I'll be VAT registered, with the important bit being that I am starting with the Net Sales Price, as the VAT on the sales price is passed on to the government

So, assuming that I am now VAT registered in the UK, my new profit calculation would be (assuming I'm not advertising, not including storage or sending to amazon etc):

  • Profit = Net Sales price - Net Referral Fee - Net Fulfilment Fee - Net Cost of Good

Translated to include consideration of VAT

  • Profit = (Gross sales price (incl VAT) - Sales VAT) - Gross Referral Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Fulfilment Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Cost of Good (incl VAT) + Referral VAT + Fulfilment VAT + Cost of Good VAT

These equations are basically the same and give the same answer, note that I am reclaiming the input vat from the Referral, Fulfilment and Cost of Good

An example

  • Gross Sale Price = 2.99
  • Sale Price VAT = 0.5
  • Net Sale Price = 2.5
  • Net Cost of Good = 0.38
  • Net Referral Fee = 0.46
  • Net Fulfilment Fee = 1.52

Profit = 2.5 - 0.38 - 0.46 - 1.52 = 0.14

Could you please review and tell me if this is correct? is using net figures the sensible technique to use?

Additionally, as a new VAT registered seller, what would you recommend to do for a pain free transition and VAT registration experience :)

Many thanks for your help!

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There's no VAT to claim on the fees at the moment as they go through as reverse charge. That will change in August when Amazon change the way they bill VAT.

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Seller_76AUwmqvSyRIM

The rule of thumb is to always work with VAT-exclusive figures.

The VAT is never yours to keep so the best thing to do is to ignore it.

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Advice for NEW Vat Registered Business - Calculating Profit After VAT

Hello,

I'm recently needing to become VAT registered on Amazon FBA, I'm happy that our business is growing but this is a milestone we all potentially go through and I'm naturally nervous about it

I'd like to check my thinking/calculations with some of the more experienced members - I hope this okay, I intend to keep my prices the same to remain competitive

I believe I can just use net figures to simplify the calculation now that I'll be VAT registered, with the important bit being that I am starting with the Net Sales Price, as the VAT on the sales price is passed on to the government

So, assuming that I am now VAT registered in the UK, my new profit calculation would be (assuming I'm not advertising, not including storage or sending to amazon etc):

  • Profit = Net Sales price - Net Referral Fee - Net Fulfilment Fee - Net Cost of Good

Translated to include consideration of VAT

  • Profit = (Gross sales price (incl VAT) - Sales VAT) - Gross Referral Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Fulfilment Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Cost of Good (incl VAT) + Referral VAT + Fulfilment VAT + Cost of Good VAT

These equations are basically the same and give the same answer, note that I am reclaiming the input vat from the Referral, Fulfilment and Cost of Good

An example

  • Gross Sale Price = 2.99
  • Sale Price VAT = 0.5
  • Net Sale Price = 2.5
  • Net Cost of Good = 0.38
  • Net Referral Fee = 0.46
  • Net Fulfilment Fee = 1.52

Profit = 2.5 - 0.38 - 0.46 - 1.52 = 0.14

Could you please review and tell me if this is correct? is using net figures the sensible technique to use?

Additionally, as a new VAT registered seller, what would you recommend to do for a pain free transition and VAT registration experience :)

Many thanks for your help!

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Seller_AJRkrWzM7LfGZ

Advice for NEW Vat Registered Business - Calculating Profit After VAT

Hello,

I'm recently needing to become VAT registered on Amazon FBA, I'm happy that our business is growing but this is a milestone we all potentially go through and I'm naturally nervous about it

I'd like to check my thinking/calculations with some of the more experienced members - I hope this okay, I intend to keep my prices the same to remain competitive

I believe I can just use net figures to simplify the calculation now that I'll be VAT registered, with the important bit being that I am starting with the Net Sales Price, as the VAT on the sales price is passed on to the government

So, assuming that I am now VAT registered in the UK, my new profit calculation would be (assuming I'm not advertising, not including storage or sending to amazon etc):

  • Profit = Net Sales price - Net Referral Fee - Net Fulfilment Fee - Net Cost of Good

Translated to include consideration of VAT

  • Profit = (Gross sales price (incl VAT) - Sales VAT) - Gross Referral Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Fulfilment Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Cost of Good (incl VAT) + Referral VAT + Fulfilment VAT + Cost of Good VAT

These equations are basically the same and give the same answer, note that I am reclaiming the input vat from the Referral, Fulfilment and Cost of Good

An example

  • Gross Sale Price = 2.99
  • Sale Price VAT = 0.5
  • Net Sale Price = 2.5
  • Net Cost of Good = 0.38
  • Net Referral Fee = 0.46
  • Net Fulfilment Fee = 1.52

Profit = 2.5 - 0.38 - 0.46 - 1.52 = 0.14

Could you please review and tell me if this is correct? is using net figures the sensible technique to use?

Additionally, as a new VAT registered seller, what would you recommend to do for a pain free transition and VAT registration experience :)

Many thanks for your help!

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Advice for NEW Vat Registered Business - Calculating Profit After VAT

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Hello,

I'm recently needing to become VAT registered on Amazon FBA, I'm happy that our business is growing but this is a milestone we all potentially go through and I'm naturally nervous about it

I'd like to check my thinking/calculations with some of the more experienced members - I hope this okay, I intend to keep my prices the same to remain competitive

I believe I can just use net figures to simplify the calculation now that I'll be VAT registered, with the important bit being that I am starting with the Net Sales Price, as the VAT on the sales price is passed on to the government

So, assuming that I am now VAT registered in the UK, my new profit calculation would be (assuming I'm not advertising, not including storage or sending to amazon etc):

  • Profit = Net Sales price - Net Referral Fee - Net Fulfilment Fee - Net Cost of Good

Translated to include consideration of VAT

  • Profit = (Gross sales price (incl VAT) - Sales VAT) - Gross Referral Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Fulfilment Fee (incl VAT) - Gross Cost of Good (incl VAT) + Referral VAT + Fulfilment VAT + Cost of Good VAT

These equations are basically the same and give the same answer, note that I am reclaiming the input vat from the Referral, Fulfilment and Cost of Good

An example

  • Gross Sale Price = 2.99
  • Sale Price VAT = 0.5
  • Net Sale Price = 2.5
  • Net Cost of Good = 0.38
  • Net Referral Fee = 0.46
  • Net Fulfilment Fee = 1.52

Profit = 2.5 - 0.38 - 0.46 - 1.52 = 0.14

Could you please review and tell me if this is correct? is using net figures the sensible technique to use?

Additionally, as a new VAT registered seller, what would you recommend to do for a pain free transition and VAT registration experience :)

Many thanks for your help!

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There's no VAT to claim on the fees at the moment as they go through as reverse charge. That will change in August when Amazon change the way they bill VAT.

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Seller_76AUwmqvSyRIM

The rule of thumb is to always work with VAT-exclusive figures.

The VAT is never yours to keep so the best thing to do is to ignore it.

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Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4

There's no VAT to claim on the fees at the moment as they go through as reverse charge. That will change in August when Amazon change the way they bill VAT.

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Seller_QuM1AZgzfU9x4

There's no VAT to claim on the fees at the moment as they go through as reverse charge. That will change in August when Amazon change the way they bill VAT.

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Seller_76AUwmqvSyRIM

The rule of thumb is to always work with VAT-exclusive figures.

The VAT is never yours to keep so the best thing to do is to ignore it.

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Seller_76AUwmqvSyRIM

The rule of thumb is to always work with VAT-exclusive figures.

The VAT is never yours to keep so the best thing to do is to ignore it.

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