Low-price FBA rates to replace Small and Light on September 26
Starting September 26, 2023, we will introduce low-price FBA rates for all items priced at or less than (including Value Added Tax (VAT)) £10 in the UK, €11 in Germany, €12 in France, Italy, Spain and the Netherlands, SEK 140 in Sweden, PLN 55 in Poland. This means that the price threshold will remain the same as for Small and Light while providing FBA delivery speeds and apply a low-price FBA fee rate card to all eligible selection.
All eligible items will automatically receive the low-price rates.
With this change, we will close the Small and Light (SnL) programme, effective as of September 26, 2023, when the new low-price FBA rates go into effect. Until then, SnL enrolled items will continue to have SnL rates applied. Enrolment of new products into the programme will end after September 14, 2023.
If your products were enrolled in SnL and qualify for low-priced FBA rates, your fee may see an increase, but your products will benefit from the fast FBA fulfilment speed. If your products were not enrolled in Small and Light and are priced below the thresholds, this change will mean that you will pay lower fees while continuing to enjoy the fast FBA fulfilment speeds.
To help prepare for this change, we recommend that you review your product offerings, check your inventory status and review the FBA and low-price FBA rate cards to assess any changes. To review the FBA and FBA low-price rate cards, go to Low-price FBA fees.
For more information on the current FBA rates, go to FBA fulfilment fee.
Low-price FBA rates to replace Small and Light on September 26
Starting September 26, 2023, we will introduce low-price FBA rates for all items priced at or less than (including Value Added Tax (VAT)) £10 in the UK, €11 in Germany, €12 in France, Italy, Spain and the Netherlands, SEK 140 in Sweden, PLN 55 in Poland. This means that the price threshold will remain the same as for Small and Light while providing FBA delivery speeds and apply a low-price FBA fee rate card to all eligible selection.
All eligible items will automatically receive the low-price rates.
With this change, we will close the Small and Light (SnL) programme, effective as of September 26, 2023, when the new low-price FBA rates go into effect. Until then, SnL enrolled items will continue to have SnL rates applied. Enrolment of new products into the programme will end after September 14, 2023.
If your products were enrolled in SnL and qualify for low-priced FBA rates, your fee may see an increase, but your products will benefit from the fast FBA fulfilment speed. If your products were not enrolled in Small and Light and are priced below the thresholds, this change will mean that you will pay lower fees while continuing to enjoy the fast FBA fulfilment speeds.
To help prepare for this change, we recommend that you review your product offerings, check your inventory status and review the FBA and low-price FBA rate cards to assess any changes. To review the FBA and FBA low-price rate cards, go to Low-price FBA fees.
For more information on the current FBA rates, go to FBA fulfilment fee.
152 replies
Seller_J2H5GprhaORbt
I do agree , that Amazon seem very hot on the suspected high pricing and there seems nothing one can do once amazon deactivates a listing for High Price .
I get this in Europe all the time , with products that are sent to European warehouses , whereby we have increased delivery fees and duties that can be as high as 12% . which obviously has to make the retail price higher , but Amazon will not have this
Seller_J2H5GprhaORbt
One of my biggest gripes with FBA and Small and Light is the following
A buyer buys 3 items
If I sold them
I can put them in 1 envelope or one box and pay 1 fee
yet on Amazon this quates to 3 fees
sometimes this can work out ridiculous
for example a buyer buys 10 different cards
it does not cost Amazon £16.00 to send these out
I appreciate that sometimes FBA fees are relatively cheap compared to our couriers that we normally use , but not in this instance
Seller_vUU6B2MNqwHir
<moderator_edit: removing inappropriate word> poor TBH, This is such a short period of time to get all of your sellers to adjust, a 50% increase on the cheapest of S&L models will kill a lot of businesses and products.
Where is the community outreach before implementing these ideas?
Seller_KWqGA485qnwWS
I crunched the numbers and it’s really bad… I don’t know how high volume SnL sellers are going to deal with these changes. Amazon have done us real bad on this one, wouldn’t be surprised if it priced out a lot of sellers, we’re all on tight margins with Amazon’s competitive pricing model, some sellers are happy making 30-40p per item at volume, but wiping this out to a loss will be catastrophic! You will only benefit from this change if you send <400g Small Parcel! And even that saving is a measly 7p !!
This is awful…
Seller_gLuAKrzt1EbIV
My items are large envelope and above, so I am not effected as much as some of you.
Even though, some of my items are 4-5 pound and I am struggling to sell them at those prices even with 10 -15% margin. I don’t know what to do, shall I convert some of my items to FBA now, apply the new fees and revise my prices and see how it goes with FBA?
Can I list one ASIN with two SKU’s one FBM and one FBA and try how does it go? The problem would be if I make FBM cheaper it will flag the FBA one being expensive… Curious of what to do next.
Seller_ZOvRiZxwOLTNq
Has there been any confirmation on the cost of labelling after the changes, at the moment S and L is 8p per unit but standard FBA would be at least 15p?
Could be another hidden cost rise for those who pay to label
Seller_77IcbQKVGdZo0
The FAQ indicates that it will now be the standard Envelope Size for labelling which will now be 15p a unit. Although I have to say this is far from clear but it appears the 8p only applies when you are enrolled in Small and Light, the 15p is for any envelope size products outside of Small and Light. Therefore I am assuming that it will now be 15p as not small and light
Amazon have also confirmed in the FAQ they will not reimburse for removals if products become too expensive to sell under the new fee structure
Once the FBA Small and Light programme is closed, I won’t be able to sell some of my products due to increases in FBA fees. Will Amazon reimburse me for removals?
Amazon will not reimburse you for removals, so please plan accordingly before the FBA Small and Light programme ends.
Also interesting enough they also saying have 2 offers against the ASIN is not a violation. I always thought this was against policy but apparently not
Does having two FBA SKUs for the same ASIN violate any listing policy?
No, you can connect multiple SKUs to an ASIN. For the long term, we recommend keeping only those SKUs associated with an ASIN that you can actively manage.
Seller_DTufFoxJuMU0M
Plan accordingly, thats amusing considering 6 weeks notice. Hardly any time to Plan anything!
Seller_77IcbQKVGdZo0
Yes I would say that statement made me a little angry.
The more I look at this the more I can’t see any way forward. I am full of gloom about this change.
I was even planning early this year and had ordered a lot of Christmas Stock which I was planning on sending in end of August/September. This is sitting in boxes ready to go and I have no idea what to do with it.
I am surprised more sellers are not commenting on this to be honest, there must be 100’s or 1000’s impacted. Or will it be the same as the reserve and they will only realise when it actually happens?
Seller_DTufFoxJuMU0M
I would say only notice when the prices go up, I haven’t got an email, or any formal notification that its happening, there is no notification or information on my home page
I only found out because I frequent this forum, those that don’t, probably have no idea what is going on and will be in for an expensive shock when they realise they are losing money all of a sudden - lets face it, how often do you check your FBA fees. I know I do it semi regularly because they keep measuring things wrong and messing it up, but its maybe once a fortnight, or once a month…
For such drastic changes, there should be a huge banner across the seller central homepage, I would much rather know that my FBA fees are going up, than the homepage is getting a new design!
Seller_77IcbQKVGdZo0
I also don’t think the email was that clear either unless you read the detail in the links provided
In my opinion the email hides a lot of detail and puts a positive spin on the changes.
I think a lot of people are going to be surprised on or after the 26th when they realise they are making a loss on every item they sell.
Seller_DTufFoxJuMU0M
To be honest I wish I’d found out a few days earlier, I wouldn’t have bothered sending in 600+ cards…
Well if anything, it made us take a look at FBA, and the cons seem to outweigh the pros now, might send the odd card in if I hit a really good seller, but am not going to bother for most things
I have the advantage of FBM to fall back on - you still have no buy box sure you don’t? Your FBM sales must be quite low
Seller_7VbclcPFFRTnc
If the comments on the delivery date reserve policy threads are anything to go on, the forums will be flooded with complaints on the morning on the 26th Sept when it’s too late
Seller_77IcbQKVGdZo0
Still no buy box. My FBM sales are 50 this week which is about normal. I get 5-6 orders a day on average, If I have a good day I get 10.
I have tried everything I can think of. Complained to support and MD email and just get the same reply each time. Mediation told me it wasn’t an eligible dispute. I even tried the CMA commenting on the Amazon investigation to see if that would get passed onto Amazon.
I have been asked a couple of times to join one of these programs where you have to pay extra for better support (at least that is how it is sold). I told them I would only consider if I got the buy box and thought they might actually do something if they thought I was prepared to spend extra money. No luck again
FBM is no go for me. I actually really can’t see a way forward, I don’t believe people will pay the additional for a greeting card on FBA when FBM sellers are so much cheaper. Then when they implement the buy box changes due to the CMA investigation I think it will impact higher priced FBA lines even more.
My only hope is that the CMA changes may give me the buy box back. Reading through the consultation document it is not clear though as there is a two stage eligibility process and I am failing the first stage. The changes for the buy box only seem to apply if you get past the first stage. I have commented on the consultation document asking for clarity on this but I don’t hold out much hope they will listen to me.
It is almost certainly the end of greeting cards for me, I have other lines to fall back on but reworking my cash flow to exclude greeting cards would mean I probably be bust within 6 months. I am going to have to find something else for FBA and quick.
Seller_DTufFoxJuMU0M
Is crazy that none can tell you what you done to justify a permanent buy box ban
Seller_02U4twsVIW95V
I’ll probably have to get another job now, on top of my Amazon job. And stop paying into my pension. Can’t believe so little notice given by Amazon. Really really poor.
Seller_YUakS29fOXogL
I think this need to be reported here:
Report a competition or market problem - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
We need them to open an investigation on the tremendous increase on amazon fba fees,
Seller_77IcbQKVGdZo0
So today I have written to my MP about this and also the CMA as well.
I am not entirely sure it is in the remit of the CMA but I think it is worth highlighting where possible. If it is in there remit it would take so long for any kind of investigation to happen that it is likely the changes will already be implemented and the damage to my business would already be done.
I am considering writing to the managing director email address but I think I will just end up with ‘We understand your concerns’ type of reply.
Seller_FZLmkAPnHuV4L
Anyone else doing a massive firesale? We thought this would be easier then having 3000 items coming back to us. But even with the price reductions, around 1000 pieces will probably not be sold by Sept 26th and that will incur a removal fee of around £400.
