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Unfair A-Z Claims for Returns

Hi All,

Recently we've had a couple of A-Z claims from buyers who are supposed to have returned items, but have not returned anything. We sell clothing so 99% of our returns are refund on first scan.

In one case the buyer either dropped their parcel off and immediately opened an A-Z or else they opened it and then dropped the parcel off later the same day. Before either Amazon or we had chance to respond the refund on first scan kicked in and the buyer was refunded. I wouldn't really object to that except they counted it as a defect against us for not refunding the customer! The item was delivered to us a few days later and it had been worn and was quite dirty, obviously been used for an event or occasion and then sent back. We appealed but they sided with the buyer.

Most recently had another where the buyer registered a return, then a couple of weeks or so later sent a message saying 'can you send me another returns label'. We explained how she could generate a returns label via her Amazon account so it would be free to return it. She opened an A-Z and claimed to Amazon she'd returned it and we hadn't refunded it. As almost all our returns are refund on first scan that should really indicate that she had not returned it at all, as the tracking for the return parcel showed too - no scans in the system, no delivery to us. Amazon refunded the buyer and gave us another defect. We've gone round in circles with them over this one but they won't budge. The best they've suggested is we claim against Royal Mail for the 'lost parcel' - so claim with the carrier for a parcel which was never posted. Don't think we've much hope with that.

Are we doing something wrong? How can buyers open A-Z's for return items which haven't been delivered? Surely they shouldn't be able to do this until the tracking shows it's delivered (or at least sent)?

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Seller_5uBYL2LFkHdQM

Unfair A-Z Claims for Returns

Hi All,

Recently we've had a couple of A-Z claims from buyers who are supposed to have returned items, but have not returned anything. We sell clothing so 99% of our returns are refund on first scan.

In one case the buyer either dropped their parcel off and immediately opened an A-Z or else they opened it and then dropped the parcel off later the same day. Before either Amazon or we had chance to respond the refund on first scan kicked in and the buyer was refunded. I wouldn't really object to that except they counted it as a defect against us for not refunding the customer! The item was delivered to us a few days later and it had been worn and was quite dirty, obviously been used for an event or occasion and then sent back. We appealed but they sided with the buyer.

Most recently had another where the buyer registered a return, then a couple of weeks or so later sent a message saying 'can you send me another returns label'. We explained how she could generate a returns label via her Amazon account so it would be free to return it. She opened an A-Z and claimed to Amazon she'd returned it and we hadn't refunded it. As almost all our returns are refund on first scan that should really indicate that she had not returned it at all, as the tracking for the return parcel showed too - no scans in the system, no delivery to us. Amazon refunded the buyer and gave us another defect. We've gone round in circles with them over this one but they won't budge. The best they've suggested is we claim against Royal Mail for the 'lost parcel' - so claim with the carrier for a parcel which was never posted. Don't think we've much hope with that.

Are we doing something wrong? How can buyers open A-Z's for return items which haven't been delivered? Surely they shouldn't be able to do this until the tracking shows it's delivered (or at least sent)?

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The return/refund system is not fit for purpose. It should be left in the hands of the seller to organise their own returns and refunds. Too many fraudulent customers these days, who know they can get away with it.

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With more and more big name clothing retails charging for returns and/or closing the accounts of prolific returners those customers will be looking for alternative suppliers to 'loan' them clothing that they can return for free with sellers paying the postage both ways for them.

I feel for you being a clothing seller on here until/unless Amazon update their policy.

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Sarah_Amzn

Hello @Seller_5uBYL2LFkHdQM,

I'm Sarah with Amazon.

Could you please share the Order ID so I can check how I can assist?

Kind regards,

Sarah.

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Unfair A-Z Claims for Returns

Hi All,

Recently we've had a couple of A-Z claims from buyers who are supposed to have returned items, but have not returned anything. We sell clothing so 99% of our returns are refund on first scan.

In one case the buyer either dropped their parcel off and immediately opened an A-Z or else they opened it and then dropped the parcel off later the same day. Before either Amazon or we had chance to respond the refund on first scan kicked in and the buyer was refunded. I wouldn't really object to that except they counted it as a defect against us for not refunding the customer! The item was delivered to us a few days later and it had been worn and was quite dirty, obviously been used for an event or occasion and then sent back. We appealed but they sided with the buyer.

Most recently had another where the buyer registered a return, then a couple of weeks or so later sent a message saying 'can you send me another returns label'. We explained how she could generate a returns label via her Amazon account so it would be free to return it. She opened an A-Z and claimed to Amazon she'd returned it and we hadn't refunded it. As almost all our returns are refund on first scan that should really indicate that she had not returned it at all, as the tracking for the return parcel showed too - no scans in the system, no delivery to us. Amazon refunded the buyer and gave us another defect. We've gone round in circles with them over this one but they won't budge. The best they've suggested is we claim against Royal Mail for the 'lost parcel' - so claim with the carrier for a parcel which was never posted. Don't think we've much hope with that.

Are we doing something wrong? How can buyers open A-Z's for return items which haven't been delivered? Surely they shouldn't be able to do this until the tracking shows it's delivered (or at least sent)?

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Unfair A-Z Claims for Returns

Hi All,

Recently we've had a couple of A-Z claims from buyers who are supposed to have returned items, but have not returned anything. We sell clothing so 99% of our returns are refund on first scan.

In one case the buyer either dropped their parcel off and immediately opened an A-Z or else they opened it and then dropped the parcel off later the same day. Before either Amazon or we had chance to respond the refund on first scan kicked in and the buyer was refunded. I wouldn't really object to that except they counted it as a defect against us for not refunding the customer! The item was delivered to us a few days later and it had been worn and was quite dirty, obviously been used for an event or occasion and then sent back. We appealed but they sided with the buyer.

Most recently had another where the buyer registered a return, then a couple of weeks or so later sent a message saying 'can you send me another returns label'. We explained how she could generate a returns label via her Amazon account so it would be free to return it. She opened an A-Z and claimed to Amazon she'd returned it and we hadn't refunded it. As almost all our returns are refund on first scan that should really indicate that she had not returned it at all, as the tracking for the return parcel showed too - no scans in the system, no delivery to us. Amazon refunded the buyer and gave us another defect. We've gone round in circles with them over this one but they won't budge. The best they've suggested is we claim against Royal Mail for the 'lost parcel' - so claim with the carrier for a parcel which was never posted. Don't think we've much hope with that.

Are we doing something wrong? How can buyers open A-Z's for return items which haven't been delivered? Surely they shouldn't be able to do this until the tracking shows it's delivered (or at least sent)?

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Unfair A-Z Claims for Returns

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Hi All,

Recently we've had a couple of A-Z claims from buyers who are supposed to have returned items, but have not returned anything. We sell clothing so 99% of our returns are refund on first scan.

In one case the buyer either dropped their parcel off and immediately opened an A-Z or else they opened it and then dropped the parcel off later the same day. Before either Amazon or we had chance to respond the refund on first scan kicked in and the buyer was refunded. I wouldn't really object to that except they counted it as a defect against us for not refunding the customer! The item was delivered to us a few days later and it had been worn and was quite dirty, obviously been used for an event or occasion and then sent back. We appealed but they sided with the buyer.

Most recently had another where the buyer registered a return, then a couple of weeks or so later sent a message saying 'can you send me another returns label'. We explained how she could generate a returns label via her Amazon account so it would be free to return it. She opened an A-Z and claimed to Amazon she'd returned it and we hadn't refunded it. As almost all our returns are refund on first scan that should really indicate that she had not returned it at all, as the tracking for the return parcel showed too - no scans in the system, no delivery to us. Amazon refunded the buyer and gave us another defect. We've gone round in circles with them over this one but they won't budge. The best they've suggested is we claim against Royal Mail for the 'lost parcel' - so claim with the carrier for a parcel which was never posted. Don't think we've much hope with that.

Are we doing something wrong? How can buyers open A-Z's for return items which haven't been delivered? Surely they shouldn't be able to do this until the tracking shows it's delivered (or at least sent)?

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The return/refund system is not fit for purpose. It should be left in the hands of the seller to organise their own returns and refunds. Too many fraudulent customers these days, who know they can get away with it.

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With more and more big name clothing retails charging for returns and/or closing the accounts of prolific returners those customers will be looking for alternative suppliers to 'loan' them clothing that they can return for free with sellers paying the postage both ways for them.

I feel for you being a clothing seller on here until/unless Amazon update their policy.

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Hello @Seller_5uBYL2LFkHdQM,

I'm Sarah with Amazon.

Could you please share the Order ID so I can check how I can assist?

Kind regards,

Sarah.

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Seller_ZVAz3d5lZuGid

The return/refund system is not fit for purpose. It should be left in the hands of the seller to organise their own returns and refunds. Too many fraudulent customers these days, who know they can get away with it.

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Seller_ZVAz3d5lZuGid

The return/refund system is not fit for purpose. It should be left in the hands of the seller to organise their own returns and refunds. Too many fraudulent customers these days, who know they can get away with it.

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Seller_mS10UjVYuuGor

With more and more big name clothing retails charging for returns and/or closing the accounts of prolific returners those customers will be looking for alternative suppliers to 'loan' them clothing that they can return for free with sellers paying the postage both ways for them.

I feel for you being a clothing seller on here until/unless Amazon update their policy.

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Seller_mS10UjVYuuGor

With more and more big name clothing retails charging for returns and/or closing the accounts of prolific returners those customers will be looking for alternative suppliers to 'loan' them clothing that they can return for free with sellers paying the postage both ways for them.

I feel for you being a clothing seller on here until/unless Amazon update their policy.

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Sarah_Amzn

Hello @Seller_5uBYL2LFkHdQM,

I'm Sarah with Amazon.

Could you please share the Order ID so I can check how I can assist?

Kind regards,

Sarah.

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Hello @Seller_5uBYL2LFkHdQM,

I'm Sarah with Amazon.

Could you please share the Order ID so I can check how I can assist?

Kind regards,

Sarah.

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