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EFN Problem

Serious problem with EFN, can anyone help? We are a UK own brand seller. We enrolled in the EFN program in the EU some time ago, and our products are stored in FBA warehousing in Spain. Because we are only VAT registered in Spain (not any other EU country), Amazon's rule is that products can only be stored in Spain. They are then distributed to customers both within Spain and in other EU countries. This works fine. However, the problem we are having is that when a customer returns a product that they bought in Germany (for example), this product is then sent back to FBA Germany. So far, also fine, because to abide by their own rules you would think Amazon would then forward the product back to FBA Spain (these are products in sellable condition). But they don't! Not only do they keep them in Germany (and other EU countries), they charge for storage there even though these products are not for sale because they are not in Spain. Also, because they are not in Spain when you go to Manage All Inventory and FBA Inventory, only the products in Spain FBA are listed. So we don't get proper visibility on those and these products outside Spain increase each time there is a return. And we are charged storage fees each month and now long term storage fees too, which are adding up. We have found out that only by doing a full Inventory Ledger report can these products be seen. We have contacted Seller Support and asked them these questions:

1. How do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

2. How can we get the products that are already in non-Spain EU warehouse sent back to FBA Spain warehouses?

For number 1 we were initially told that the returns settings had been set up incorrectly but they were correct now, and that this would not happen again. However, it keeps happening.

For number 2 we were told that this is not possible, that they can only be sent to a third party address within the EU. We don't have such an address as we are UK based and rely on Amazon for warehousing.

We then contacted Seller Support again, and asked these questions:

A. Again, how do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

B. As we did not request these products to be returned to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses (and this seems to be against Amazon's own policies), please can we be refunded the monies paid for non-Spain EU FBA storage fees?

C. As we don't have any address within the EU, if they cannot be sent back to Spain FBA our only option is to have these products destroyed (even though they are in sellable condition).

For A and B we received no response about this. For C we were sent information about how to send the products to a 3rd party address within the EU (which we don't have), and the question about destroying the products was ignored.

At this point we gave up with Seller Support and I contacted a third party Amazon service provider and asked them for a quote to get these products destroyed. They have now been looking into this for a week and they cannot yet find out how to do this.

Has anyone experienced a similar situation? Or if someone from Amazon would respond and help, even better. In all fairness we should really have the storage costs refunded, and be provided with a way to stop this happening again, otherwise it is a drain on our business and undermines the viability of the EFN program.

@Sakura_Amazon_

@Sarah_Amzn

@Winston_Amazon

@Simon_Amazon

@Julia_Amzn

@Ezra_Amazon

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EFN Problem

Serious problem with EFN, can anyone help? We are a UK own brand seller. We enrolled in the EFN program in the EU some time ago, and our products are stored in FBA warehousing in Spain. Because we are only VAT registered in Spain (not any other EU country), Amazon's rule is that products can only be stored in Spain. They are then distributed to customers both within Spain and in other EU countries. This works fine. However, the problem we are having is that when a customer returns a product that they bought in Germany (for example), this product is then sent back to FBA Germany. So far, also fine, because to abide by their own rules you would think Amazon would then forward the product back to FBA Spain (these are products in sellable condition). But they don't! Not only do they keep them in Germany (and other EU countries), they charge for storage there even though these products are not for sale because they are not in Spain. Also, because they are not in Spain when you go to Manage All Inventory and FBA Inventory, only the products in Spain FBA are listed. So we don't get proper visibility on those and these products outside Spain increase each time there is a return. And we are charged storage fees each month and now long term storage fees too, which are adding up. We have found out that only by doing a full Inventory Ledger report can these products be seen. We have contacted Seller Support and asked them these questions:

1. How do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

2. How can we get the products that are already in non-Spain EU warehouse sent back to FBA Spain warehouses?

For number 1 we were initially told that the returns settings had been set up incorrectly but they were correct now, and that this would not happen again. However, it keeps happening.

For number 2 we were told that this is not possible, that they can only be sent to a third party address within the EU. We don't have such an address as we are UK based and rely on Amazon for warehousing.

We then contacted Seller Support again, and asked these questions:

A. Again, how do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

B. As we did not request these products to be returned to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses (and this seems to be against Amazon's own policies), please can we be refunded the monies paid for non-Spain EU FBA storage fees?

C. As we don't have any address within the EU, if they cannot be sent back to Spain FBA our only option is to have these products destroyed (even though they are in sellable condition).

For A and B we received no response about this. For C we were sent information about how to send the products to a 3rd party address within the EU (which we don't have), and the question about destroying the products was ignored.

At this point we gave up with Seller Support and I contacted a third party Amazon service provider and asked them for a quote to get these products destroyed. They have now been looking into this for a week and they cannot yet find out how to do this.

Has anyone experienced a similar situation? Or if someone from Amazon would respond and help, even better. In all fairness we should really have the storage costs refunded, and be provided with a way to stop this happening again, otherwise it is a drain on our business and undermines the viability of the EFN program.

@Sakura_Amazon_

@Sarah_Amzn

@Winston_Amazon

@Simon_Amazon

@Julia_Amzn

@Ezra_Amazon

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Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

What a situation, I am going to set up a meeting with my contact to find out exactly what is going on and how we can solve it.

I will let you know.

Regards, Spencer

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Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

I am Spencer with Amazon.

Have you had a chance to contact seller support on this issue?

Let me know if you need additional help.

Regards, Spencer

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Hi again Spencer, it's definitely looking more positive now.

From their answers now they are saying that we can request reimbursement of the storage fees (and hopefully long term storage fees too). And that they will send products that are returned to EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (Unauthorized Countries) to FBA warehouses in Spain (authorized Country). I hope this turns out to be correct and that they actually do this, hopefully they will.

Their latest reply:

"About your questions:

1. How do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

- Amazon can't stop buyer from returning item to his local FCs.

2. As we did not request these products to be returned to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses, please can we be refunded the monies paid for non-Spain EU FBA storage fees?

- Yes, seller may request an reimbursement for the storage fees.

3. Can these products that are in sellable condition be sent back to Spain FBA warehouses so that customers can purchase them? As we don't have any address within the EU, if they cannot be sent back to Spain FBA our only option is to have these products destroyed (even though they are in sellable condition). If destroying them is our only option, how do we do that, and can we be recompensed for the products destroyed that are in sellable condition?

- Yes, stock in an Unauthorized Country must be transshipped to an Authorized country.

Let me inform you, that the team in charge has been notified and is evaluating your request. As soon as we have its resolution, you will be notified."

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This is indeed good news @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

Please keep me posted on the progress and I will keep chasing this case.

Have a nice weekend.

Regards, Spencer

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Hi Spencer,

I have heard from Sunnie at Amazon that the affected ASINs are now being moved to a Fulfilment Center in Spain. I've not heard anything from Seller Support that confirms this yet though, I will update here when I do. She also asks me to continue to monitor the case (ID 9973071602), so I can follow up on the request for reimbursement.

So, about the request for reimbursement. I have now looked at the charges for both storage fees and long term storage fees for the EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (ie, the warehouses that would be covered by the reimbursement), and I find this this issue has been going on much longer than I realised.

For Germany, for example (which I believe also covers the charges for FBA storage in Poland and Czechia, but I'm not sure), there are long term storage fees already being charged for this back as far as 18/07/2022 and storage fees for 08/07/2022 (same for Italy).

It won't allow me to run reports further than 2 years back, but as there are long term storage fees being charged on 18/07/2022 the charges must go back at least several months before that.

These charges are for relatively small amounts, but over the 2 years they add up to £720 for Germany, £232.44 for Italy, and £16.71 for France.

Is it possible could you advise on how I can find what non-Spain EU FBA storage charges were applied more than 2 years ago, so that these amounts can also be included when the reimbursement request is made? Thanks.

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Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

I have contacted our partner team to look into the storage fees across Europe for the whole time they were charged.

I will keep you posted.

Regards, Spencer

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Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n

Thanks Spencer, I look forward to your further post about this

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Hi Spencer, since your last post it seems nothing has been transhipped to Spain, and now today we've been charged yet more long term storage fees for this too.

Please can you follow up again internally and let us know the situation. Thanks.

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Hi again Spencer,

I've just had this response from Seller Support:

"Dear Silk Bedding Direct Team . This is Roger and it has been a pleasure assisting you today.

We are truly grateful for the opportunity given to work hand to hand to solve the issue.

So base on your email I understand you are contacting regarding EFN and storaged issue due to returns were you were not authorizing storage.

Be informed that all details has been reviewed carefully and diligently and as a result of our exhaustive investigation we have found that our internal team has request the inventory to be moved to ES FCs.

Changes will be visible in 14 days.

I hope that the information provided will be useful to resolve your query and make the right decisions in your business."

So, that's good news that things are moving forward.

It doesn't mention anything about the reimbursement of the storages fees and long-term storage fees though. I will follow up with them about this. Is it ok for you to follow up with them internally too please?

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Hi Spencer,

I have now followed up on the case with this message:

""Thanks for the update on this. I look forward to seeing the products moved to Spain FBA storage over the next 14 days.

The other part of this issue is the reimbursement for the storage fees and long term storage fees.

In addition to opening this case I have also been communicating with @Spencer_Amazon on the Amazon forums, who last week I sent this message:

"So, about the request for reimbursement. I have now looked at the charges for both storage fees and long term storage fees for the EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (ie, the warehouses that would be covered by the reimbursement), and I find this this issue has been going on much longer than I realised.

For Germany, for example (which I believe also covers the charges for FBA storage in Poland and Czechia, but I'm not sure), there are long term storage fees already being charged for this back as far as 18/07/2022 and storage fees for 08/07/2022 (same for Italy).

It won't allow me to run reports further than 2 years back, but as there are long term storage fees being charged on 18/07/2022 the charges must go back at least several months before that.

These charges are for relatively small amounts, but over the 2 years they add up to £720 for Germany, £232.44 for Italy, and £16.71 for France.

Is it possible could you advise on how I can find what non-Spain EU FBA storage charges were applied more than 2 years ago, so that these amounts can also be included when the reimbursement request is made? Thanks."

This is the Spencer's reply to that message:

"Hello @Silk_Bedding_Direct,

I have contacted our partner team to look into the storage fees across Europe for the whole time they were charged.

I will keep you posted.

Regards, Spencer"

Please can you let me know at what stage you are at for these reimbursements. I have attached 3 Excel sheets here that itemise the charges over the past two years that should be reimbursed. In addition to these there are charges added to our account today, and the charges applied more than 2 years ago as discussed with Spencer above.

If we can get all these charges reimbursed to our account as soon as possible it would be much appreciated. Thank you.""

Please keep me posted Spencer, and thanks again for your help.

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Hi Spencer,

Please can you look into this. Below is the reply I have received from Seller Support....

"Hello from Amazon Seller Partner Support;

I hope this mail find you well. I understand you would like to know if there's an historic report that you can download that goes back more that 2 years.

I would like to inform you that although there's no report that you can download, you will be able to access the ledger report. When you select the option "exact dates", please go back as much as the calendar allows you to. Once you click on generate report, go back to the calendar again and you will be able to select older dates."

I have included a link here for your reference:

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Obviously they seem to be answering a completely different question. I've now pointed that out to them and asked them to look at this again so they can initiate the reimbursements

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Hi Spencer,

I've requested an urgent update on the situation from the new person at seller support. I will update here when I receive a reply.

You're tagged, so I guess you are still following this, yes?

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EFN Problem

Serious problem with EFN, can anyone help? We are a UK own brand seller. We enrolled in the EFN program in the EU some time ago, and our products are stored in FBA warehousing in Spain. Because we are only VAT registered in Spain (not any other EU country), Amazon's rule is that products can only be stored in Spain. They are then distributed to customers both within Spain and in other EU countries. This works fine. However, the problem we are having is that when a customer returns a product that they bought in Germany (for example), this product is then sent back to FBA Germany. So far, also fine, because to abide by their own rules you would think Amazon would then forward the product back to FBA Spain (these are products in sellable condition). But they don't! Not only do they keep them in Germany (and other EU countries), they charge for storage there even though these products are not for sale because they are not in Spain. Also, because they are not in Spain when you go to Manage All Inventory and FBA Inventory, only the products in Spain FBA are listed. So we don't get proper visibility on those and these products outside Spain increase each time there is a return. And we are charged storage fees each month and now long term storage fees too, which are adding up. We have found out that only by doing a full Inventory Ledger report can these products be seen. We have contacted Seller Support and asked them these questions:

1. How do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

2. How can we get the products that are already in non-Spain EU warehouse sent back to FBA Spain warehouses?

For number 1 we were initially told that the returns settings had been set up incorrectly but they were correct now, and that this would not happen again. However, it keeps happening.

For number 2 we were told that this is not possible, that they can only be sent to a third party address within the EU. We don't have such an address as we are UK based and rely on Amazon for warehousing.

We then contacted Seller Support again, and asked these questions:

A. Again, how do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

B. As we did not request these products to be returned to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses (and this seems to be against Amazon's own policies), please can we be refunded the monies paid for non-Spain EU FBA storage fees?

C. As we don't have any address within the EU, if they cannot be sent back to Spain FBA our only option is to have these products destroyed (even though they are in sellable condition).

For A and B we received no response about this. For C we were sent information about how to send the products to a 3rd party address within the EU (which we don't have), and the question about destroying the products was ignored.

At this point we gave up with Seller Support and I contacted a third party Amazon service provider and asked them for a quote to get these products destroyed. They have now been looking into this for a week and they cannot yet find out how to do this.

Has anyone experienced a similar situation? Or if someone from Amazon would respond and help, even better. In all fairness we should really have the storage costs refunded, and be provided with a way to stop this happening again, otherwise it is a drain on our business and undermines the viability of the EFN program.

@Sakura_Amazon_

@Sarah_Amzn

@Winston_Amazon

@Simon_Amazon

@Julia_Amzn

@Ezra_Amazon

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EFN Problem

Serious problem with EFN, can anyone help? We are a UK own brand seller. We enrolled in the EFN program in the EU some time ago, and our products are stored in FBA warehousing in Spain. Because we are only VAT registered in Spain (not any other EU country), Amazon's rule is that products can only be stored in Spain. They are then distributed to customers both within Spain and in other EU countries. This works fine. However, the problem we are having is that when a customer returns a product that they bought in Germany (for example), this product is then sent back to FBA Germany. So far, also fine, because to abide by their own rules you would think Amazon would then forward the product back to FBA Spain (these are products in sellable condition). But they don't! Not only do they keep them in Germany (and other EU countries), they charge for storage there even though these products are not for sale because they are not in Spain. Also, because they are not in Spain when you go to Manage All Inventory and FBA Inventory, only the products in Spain FBA are listed. So we don't get proper visibility on those and these products outside Spain increase each time there is a return. And we are charged storage fees each month and now long term storage fees too, which are adding up. We have found out that only by doing a full Inventory Ledger report can these products be seen. We have contacted Seller Support and asked them these questions:

1. How do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

2. How can we get the products that are already in non-Spain EU warehouse sent back to FBA Spain warehouses?

For number 1 we were initially told that the returns settings had been set up incorrectly but they were correct now, and that this would not happen again. However, it keeps happening.

For number 2 we were told that this is not possible, that they can only be sent to a third party address within the EU. We don't have such an address as we are UK based and rely on Amazon for warehousing.

We then contacted Seller Support again, and asked these questions:

A. Again, how do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

B. As we did not request these products to be returned to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses (and this seems to be against Amazon's own policies), please can we be refunded the monies paid for non-Spain EU FBA storage fees?

C. As we don't have any address within the EU, if they cannot be sent back to Spain FBA our only option is to have these products destroyed (even though they are in sellable condition).

For A and B we received no response about this. For C we were sent information about how to send the products to a 3rd party address within the EU (which we don't have), and the question about destroying the products was ignored.

At this point we gave up with Seller Support and I contacted a third party Amazon service provider and asked them for a quote to get these products destroyed. They have now been looking into this for a week and they cannot yet find out how to do this.

Has anyone experienced a similar situation? Or if someone from Amazon would respond and help, even better. In all fairness we should really have the storage costs refunded, and be provided with a way to stop this happening again, otherwise it is a drain on our business and undermines the viability of the EFN program.

@Sakura_Amazon_

@Sarah_Amzn

@Winston_Amazon

@Simon_Amazon

@Julia_Amzn

@Ezra_Amazon

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Serious problem with EFN, can anyone help? We are a UK own brand seller. We enrolled in the EFN program in the EU some time ago, and our products are stored in FBA warehousing in Spain. Because we are only VAT registered in Spain (not any other EU country), Amazon's rule is that products can only be stored in Spain. They are then distributed to customers both within Spain and in other EU countries. This works fine. However, the problem we are having is that when a customer returns a product that they bought in Germany (for example), this product is then sent back to FBA Germany. So far, also fine, because to abide by their own rules you would think Amazon would then forward the product back to FBA Spain (these are products in sellable condition). But they don't! Not only do they keep them in Germany (and other EU countries), they charge for storage there even though these products are not for sale because they are not in Spain. Also, because they are not in Spain when you go to Manage All Inventory and FBA Inventory, only the products in Spain FBA are listed. So we don't get proper visibility on those and these products outside Spain increase each time there is a return. And we are charged storage fees each month and now long term storage fees too, which are adding up. We have found out that only by doing a full Inventory Ledger report can these products be seen. We have contacted Seller Support and asked them these questions:

1. How do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

2. How can we get the products that are already in non-Spain EU warehouse sent back to FBA Spain warehouses?

For number 1 we were initially told that the returns settings had been set up incorrectly but they were correct now, and that this would not happen again. However, it keeps happening.

For number 2 we were told that this is not possible, that they can only be sent to a third party address within the EU. We don't have such an address as we are UK based and rely on Amazon for warehousing.

We then contacted Seller Support again, and asked these questions:

A. Again, how do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

B. As we did not request these products to be returned to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses (and this seems to be against Amazon's own policies), please can we be refunded the monies paid for non-Spain EU FBA storage fees?

C. As we don't have any address within the EU, if they cannot be sent back to Spain FBA our only option is to have these products destroyed (even though they are in sellable condition).

For A and B we received no response about this. For C we were sent information about how to send the products to a 3rd party address within the EU (which we don't have), and the question about destroying the products was ignored.

At this point we gave up with Seller Support and I contacted a third party Amazon service provider and asked them for a quote to get these products destroyed. They have now been looking into this for a week and they cannot yet find out how to do this.

Has anyone experienced a similar situation? Or if someone from Amazon would respond and help, even better. In all fairness we should really have the storage costs refunded, and be provided with a way to stop this happening again, otherwise it is a drain on our business and undermines the viability of the EFN program.

@Sakura_Amazon_

@Sarah_Amzn

@Winston_Amazon

@Simon_Amazon

@Julia_Amzn

@Ezra_Amazon

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Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

What a situation, I am going to set up a meeting with my contact to find out exactly what is going on and how we can solve it.

I will let you know.

Regards, Spencer

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Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

What a situation, I am going to set up a meeting with my contact to find out exactly what is going on and how we can solve it.

I will let you know.

Regards, Spencer

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Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

What a situation, I am going to set up a meeting with my contact to find out exactly what is going on and how we can solve it.

I will let you know.

Regards, Spencer

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Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

I am Spencer with Amazon.

Have you had a chance to contact seller support on this issue?

Let me know if you need additional help.

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Hi again Spencer, it's definitely looking more positive now.

From their answers now they are saying that we can request reimbursement of the storage fees (and hopefully long term storage fees too). And that they will send products that are returned to EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (Unauthorized Countries) to FBA warehouses in Spain (authorized Country). I hope this turns out to be correct and that they actually do this, hopefully they will.

Their latest reply:

"About your questions:

1. How do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

- Amazon can't stop buyer from returning item to his local FCs.

2. As we did not request these products to be returned to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses, please can we be refunded the monies paid for non-Spain EU FBA storage fees?

- Yes, seller may request an reimbursement for the storage fees.

3. Can these products that are in sellable condition be sent back to Spain FBA warehouses so that customers can purchase them? As we don't have any address within the EU, if they cannot be sent back to Spain FBA our only option is to have these products destroyed (even though they are in sellable condition). If destroying them is our only option, how do we do that, and can we be recompensed for the products destroyed that are in sellable condition?

- Yes, stock in an Unauthorized Country must be transshipped to an Authorized country.

Let me inform you, that the team in charge has been notified and is evaluating your request. As soon as we have its resolution, you will be notified."

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This is indeed good news @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

Please keep me posted on the progress and I will keep chasing this case.

Have a nice weekend.

Regards, Spencer

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Hi Spencer,

I have heard from Sunnie at Amazon that the affected ASINs are now being moved to a Fulfilment Center in Spain. I've not heard anything from Seller Support that confirms this yet though, I will update here when I do. She also asks me to continue to monitor the case (ID 9973071602), so I can follow up on the request for reimbursement.

So, about the request for reimbursement. I have now looked at the charges for both storage fees and long term storage fees for the EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (ie, the warehouses that would be covered by the reimbursement), and I find this this issue has been going on much longer than I realised.

For Germany, for example (which I believe also covers the charges for FBA storage in Poland and Czechia, but I'm not sure), there are long term storage fees already being charged for this back as far as 18/07/2022 and storage fees for 08/07/2022 (same for Italy).

It won't allow me to run reports further than 2 years back, but as there are long term storage fees being charged on 18/07/2022 the charges must go back at least several months before that.

These charges are for relatively small amounts, but over the 2 years they add up to £720 for Germany, £232.44 for Italy, and £16.71 for France.

Is it possible could you advise on how I can find what non-Spain EU FBA storage charges were applied more than 2 years ago, so that these amounts can also be included when the reimbursement request is made? Thanks.

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Spencer_Amazon

Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

I have contacted our partner team to look into the storage fees across Europe for the whole time they were charged.

I will keep you posted.

Regards, Spencer

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Thanks Spencer, I look forward to your further post about this

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Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n

Hi Spencer, since your last post it seems nothing has been transhipped to Spain, and now today we've been charged yet more long term storage fees for this too.

Please can you follow up again internally and let us know the situation. Thanks.

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Hi again Spencer,

I've just had this response from Seller Support:

"Dear Silk Bedding Direct Team . This is Roger and it has been a pleasure assisting you today.

We are truly grateful for the opportunity given to work hand to hand to solve the issue.

So base on your email I understand you are contacting regarding EFN and storaged issue due to returns were you were not authorizing storage.

Be informed that all details has been reviewed carefully and diligently and as a result of our exhaustive investigation we have found that our internal team has request the inventory to be moved to ES FCs.

Changes will be visible in 14 days.

I hope that the information provided will be useful to resolve your query and make the right decisions in your business."

So, that's good news that things are moving forward.

It doesn't mention anything about the reimbursement of the storages fees and long-term storage fees though. I will follow up with them about this. Is it ok for you to follow up with them internally too please?

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Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n

Hi Spencer,

I have now followed up on the case with this message:

""Thanks for the update on this. I look forward to seeing the products moved to Spain FBA storage over the next 14 days.

The other part of this issue is the reimbursement for the storage fees and long term storage fees.

In addition to opening this case I have also been communicating with @Spencer_Amazon on the Amazon forums, who last week I sent this message:

"So, about the request for reimbursement. I have now looked at the charges for both storage fees and long term storage fees for the EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (ie, the warehouses that would be covered by the reimbursement), and I find this this issue has been going on much longer than I realised.

For Germany, for example (which I believe also covers the charges for FBA storage in Poland and Czechia, but I'm not sure), there are long term storage fees already being charged for this back as far as 18/07/2022 and storage fees for 08/07/2022 (same for Italy).

It won't allow me to run reports further than 2 years back, but as there are long term storage fees being charged on 18/07/2022 the charges must go back at least several months before that.

These charges are for relatively small amounts, but over the 2 years they add up to £720 for Germany, £232.44 for Italy, and £16.71 for France.

Is it possible could you advise on how I can find what non-Spain EU FBA storage charges were applied more than 2 years ago, so that these amounts can also be included when the reimbursement request is made? Thanks."

This is the Spencer's reply to that message:

"Hello @Silk_Bedding_Direct,

I have contacted our partner team to look into the storage fees across Europe for the whole time they were charged.

I will keep you posted.

Regards, Spencer"

Please can you let me know at what stage you are at for these reimbursements. I have attached 3 Excel sheets here that itemise the charges over the past two years that should be reimbursed. In addition to these there are charges added to our account today, and the charges applied more than 2 years ago as discussed with Spencer above.

If we can get all these charges reimbursed to our account as soon as possible it would be much appreciated. Thank you.""

Please keep me posted Spencer, and thanks again for your help.

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Hi Spencer,

Please can you look into this. Below is the reply I have received from Seller Support....

"Hello from Amazon Seller Partner Support;

I hope this mail find you well. I understand you would like to know if there's an historic report that you can download that goes back more that 2 years.

I would like to inform you that although there's no report that you can download, you will be able to access the ledger report. When you select the option "exact dates", please go back as much as the calendar allows you to. Once you click on generate report, go back to the calendar again and you will be able to select older dates."

I have included a link here for your reference:

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Obviously they seem to be answering a completely different question. I've now pointed that out to them and asked them to look at this again so they can initiate the reimbursements

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Hi Spencer,

I've requested an urgent update on the situation from the new person at seller support. I will update here when I receive a reply.

You're tagged, so I guess you are still following this, yes?

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Spencer_Amazon

Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

I am Spencer with Amazon.

Have you had a chance to contact seller support on this issue?

Let me know if you need additional help.

Regards, Spencer

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Spencer_Amazon

Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

I am Spencer with Amazon.

Have you had a chance to contact seller support on this issue?

Let me know if you need additional help.

Regards, Spencer

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Hi again Spencer, it's definitely looking more positive now.

From their answers now they are saying that we can request reimbursement of the storage fees (and hopefully long term storage fees too). And that they will send products that are returned to EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (Unauthorized Countries) to FBA warehouses in Spain (authorized Country). I hope this turns out to be correct and that they actually do this, hopefully they will.

Their latest reply:

"About your questions:

1. How do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

- Amazon can't stop buyer from returning item to his local FCs.

2. As we did not request these products to be returned to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses, please can we be refunded the monies paid for non-Spain EU FBA storage fees?

- Yes, seller may request an reimbursement for the storage fees.

3. Can these products that are in sellable condition be sent back to Spain FBA warehouses so that customers can purchase them? As we don't have any address within the EU, if they cannot be sent back to Spain FBA our only option is to have these products destroyed (even though they are in sellable condition). If destroying them is our only option, how do we do that, and can we be recompensed for the products destroyed that are in sellable condition?

- Yes, stock in an Unauthorized Country must be transshipped to an Authorized country.

Let me inform you, that the team in charge has been notified and is evaluating your request. As soon as we have its resolution, you will be notified."

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Hi again Spencer, it's definitely looking more positive now.

From their answers now they are saying that we can request reimbursement of the storage fees (and hopefully long term storage fees too). And that they will send products that are returned to EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (Unauthorized Countries) to FBA warehouses in Spain (authorized Country). I hope this turns out to be correct and that they actually do this, hopefully they will.

Their latest reply:

"About your questions:

1. How do we stop returns being sent to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses?

- Amazon can't stop buyer from returning item to his local FCs.

2. As we did not request these products to be returned to non-Spain EU FBA warehouses, please can we be refunded the monies paid for non-Spain EU FBA storage fees?

- Yes, seller may request an reimbursement for the storage fees.

3. Can these products that are in sellable condition be sent back to Spain FBA warehouses so that customers can purchase them? As we don't have any address within the EU, if they cannot be sent back to Spain FBA our only option is to have these products destroyed (even though they are in sellable condition). If destroying them is our only option, how do we do that, and can we be recompensed for the products destroyed that are in sellable condition?

- Yes, stock in an Unauthorized Country must be transshipped to an Authorized country.

Let me inform you, that the team in charge has been notified and is evaluating your request. As soon as we have its resolution, you will be notified."

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Spencer_Amazon

This is indeed good news @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

Please keep me posted on the progress and I will keep chasing this case.

Have a nice weekend.

Regards, Spencer

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Spencer_Amazon

This is indeed good news @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

Please keep me posted on the progress and I will keep chasing this case.

Have a nice weekend.

Regards, Spencer

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Hi Spencer,

I have heard from Sunnie at Amazon that the affected ASINs are now being moved to a Fulfilment Center in Spain. I've not heard anything from Seller Support that confirms this yet though, I will update here when I do. She also asks me to continue to monitor the case (ID 9973071602), so I can follow up on the request for reimbursement.

So, about the request for reimbursement. I have now looked at the charges for both storage fees and long term storage fees for the EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (ie, the warehouses that would be covered by the reimbursement), and I find this this issue has been going on much longer than I realised.

For Germany, for example (which I believe also covers the charges for FBA storage in Poland and Czechia, but I'm not sure), there are long term storage fees already being charged for this back as far as 18/07/2022 and storage fees for 08/07/2022 (same for Italy).

It won't allow me to run reports further than 2 years back, but as there are long term storage fees being charged on 18/07/2022 the charges must go back at least several months before that.

These charges are for relatively small amounts, but over the 2 years they add up to £720 for Germany, £232.44 for Italy, and £16.71 for France.

Is it possible could you advise on how I can find what non-Spain EU FBA storage charges were applied more than 2 years ago, so that these amounts can also be included when the reimbursement request is made? Thanks.

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Hi Spencer,

I have heard from Sunnie at Amazon that the affected ASINs are now being moved to a Fulfilment Center in Spain. I've not heard anything from Seller Support that confirms this yet though, I will update here when I do. She also asks me to continue to monitor the case (ID 9973071602), so I can follow up on the request for reimbursement.

So, about the request for reimbursement. I have now looked at the charges for both storage fees and long term storage fees for the EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (ie, the warehouses that would be covered by the reimbursement), and I find this this issue has been going on much longer than I realised.

For Germany, for example (which I believe also covers the charges for FBA storage in Poland and Czechia, but I'm not sure), there are long term storage fees already being charged for this back as far as 18/07/2022 and storage fees for 08/07/2022 (same for Italy).

It won't allow me to run reports further than 2 years back, but as there are long term storage fees being charged on 18/07/2022 the charges must go back at least several months before that.

These charges are for relatively small amounts, but over the 2 years they add up to £720 for Germany, £232.44 for Italy, and £16.71 for France.

Is it possible could you advise on how I can find what non-Spain EU FBA storage charges were applied more than 2 years ago, so that these amounts can also be included when the reimbursement request is made? Thanks.

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Spencer_Amazon

Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

I have contacted our partner team to look into the storage fees across Europe for the whole time they were charged.

I will keep you posted.

Regards, Spencer

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Hello @Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n,

I have contacted our partner team to look into the storage fees across Europe for the whole time they were charged.

I will keep you posted.

Regards, Spencer

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Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n

Thanks Spencer, I look forward to your further post about this

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Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n

Thanks Spencer, I look forward to your further post about this

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Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n

Hi Spencer, since your last post it seems nothing has been transhipped to Spain, and now today we've been charged yet more long term storage fees for this too.

Please can you follow up again internally and let us know the situation. Thanks.

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Hi Spencer, since your last post it seems nothing has been transhipped to Spain, and now today we've been charged yet more long term storage fees for this too.

Please can you follow up again internally and let us know the situation. Thanks.

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Hi again Spencer,

I've just had this response from Seller Support:

"Dear Silk Bedding Direct Team . This is Roger and it has been a pleasure assisting you today.

We are truly grateful for the opportunity given to work hand to hand to solve the issue.

So base on your email I understand you are contacting regarding EFN and storaged issue due to returns were you were not authorizing storage.

Be informed that all details has been reviewed carefully and diligently and as a result of our exhaustive investigation we have found that our internal team has request the inventory to be moved to ES FCs.

Changes will be visible in 14 days.

I hope that the information provided will be useful to resolve your query and make the right decisions in your business."

So, that's good news that things are moving forward.

It doesn't mention anything about the reimbursement of the storages fees and long-term storage fees though. I will follow up with them about this. Is it ok for you to follow up with them internally too please?

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Hi again Spencer,

I've just had this response from Seller Support:

"Dear Silk Bedding Direct Team . This is Roger and it has been a pleasure assisting you today.

We are truly grateful for the opportunity given to work hand to hand to solve the issue.

So base on your email I understand you are contacting regarding EFN and storaged issue due to returns were you were not authorizing storage.

Be informed that all details has been reviewed carefully and diligently and as a result of our exhaustive investigation we have found that our internal team has request the inventory to be moved to ES FCs.

Changes will be visible in 14 days.

I hope that the information provided will be useful to resolve your query and make the right decisions in your business."

So, that's good news that things are moving forward.

It doesn't mention anything about the reimbursement of the storages fees and long-term storage fees though. I will follow up with them about this. Is it ok for you to follow up with them internally too please?

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Hi Spencer,

I have now followed up on the case with this message:

""Thanks for the update on this. I look forward to seeing the products moved to Spain FBA storage over the next 14 days.

The other part of this issue is the reimbursement for the storage fees and long term storage fees.

In addition to opening this case I have also been communicating with @Spencer_Amazon on the Amazon forums, who last week I sent this message:

"So, about the request for reimbursement. I have now looked at the charges for both storage fees and long term storage fees for the EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (ie, the warehouses that would be covered by the reimbursement), and I find this this issue has been going on much longer than I realised.

For Germany, for example (which I believe also covers the charges for FBA storage in Poland and Czechia, but I'm not sure), there are long term storage fees already being charged for this back as far as 18/07/2022 and storage fees for 08/07/2022 (same for Italy).

It won't allow me to run reports further than 2 years back, but as there are long term storage fees being charged on 18/07/2022 the charges must go back at least several months before that.

These charges are for relatively small amounts, but over the 2 years they add up to £720 for Germany, £232.44 for Italy, and £16.71 for France.

Is it possible could you advise on how I can find what non-Spain EU FBA storage charges were applied more than 2 years ago, so that these amounts can also be included when the reimbursement request is made? Thanks."

This is the Spencer's reply to that message:

"Hello @Silk_Bedding_Direct,

I have contacted our partner team to look into the storage fees across Europe for the whole time they were charged.

I will keep you posted.

Regards, Spencer"

Please can you let me know at what stage you are at for these reimbursements. I have attached 3 Excel sheets here that itemise the charges over the past two years that should be reimbursed. In addition to these there are charges added to our account today, and the charges applied more than 2 years ago as discussed with Spencer above.

If we can get all these charges reimbursed to our account as soon as possible it would be much appreciated. Thank you.""

Please keep me posted Spencer, and thanks again for your help.

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Seller_DJqWlEby6fi8n

Hi Spencer,

I have now followed up on the case with this message:

""Thanks for the update on this. I look forward to seeing the products moved to Spain FBA storage over the next 14 days.

The other part of this issue is the reimbursement for the storage fees and long term storage fees.

In addition to opening this case I have also been communicating with @Spencer_Amazon on the Amazon forums, who last week I sent this message:

"So, about the request for reimbursement. I have now looked at the charges for both storage fees and long term storage fees for the EU FBA warehouses outside Spain (ie, the warehouses that would be covered by the reimbursement), and I find this this issue has been going on much longer than I realised.

For Germany, for example (which I believe also covers the charges for FBA storage in Poland and Czechia, but I'm not sure), there are long term storage fees already being charged for this back as far as 18/07/2022 and storage fees for 08/07/2022 (same for Italy).

It won't allow me to run reports further than 2 years back, but as there are long term storage fees being charged on 18/07/2022 the charges must go back at least several months before that.

These charges are for relatively small amounts, but over the 2 years they add up to £720 for Germany, £232.44 for Italy, and £16.71 for France.

Is it possible could you advise on how I can find what non-Spain EU FBA storage charges were applied more than 2 years ago, so that these amounts can also be included when the reimbursement request is made? Thanks."

This is the Spencer's reply to that message:

"Hello @Silk_Bedding_Direct,

I have contacted our partner team to look into the storage fees across Europe for the whole time they were charged.

I will keep you posted.

Regards, Spencer"

Please can you let me know at what stage you are at for these reimbursements. I have attached 3 Excel sheets here that itemise the charges over the past two years that should be reimbursed. In addition to these there are charges added to our account today, and the charges applied more than 2 years ago as discussed with Spencer above.

If we can get all these charges reimbursed to our account as soon as possible it would be much appreciated. Thank you.""

Please keep me posted Spencer, and thanks again for your help.

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Hi Spencer,

Please can you look into this. Below is the reply I have received from Seller Support....

"Hello from Amazon Seller Partner Support;

I hope this mail find you well. I understand you would like to know if there's an historic report that you can download that goes back more that 2 years.

I would like to inform you that although there's no report that you can download, you will be able to access the ledger report. When you select the option "exact dates", please go back as much as the calendar allows you to. Once you click on generate report, go back to the calendar again and you will be able to select older dates."

I have included a link here for your reference:

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Hi Spencer,

Please can you look into this. Below is the reply I have received from Seller Support....

"Hello from Amazon Seller Partner Support;

I hope this mail find you well. I understand you would like to know if there's an historic report that you can download that goes back more that 2 years.

I would like to inform you that although there's no report that you can download, you will be able to access the ledger report. When you select the option "exact dates", please go back as much as the calendar allows you to. Once you click on generate report, go back to the calendar again and you will be able to select older dates."

I have included a link here for your reference:

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Obviously they seem to be answering a completely different question. I've now pointed that out to them and asked them to look at this again so they can initiate the reimbursements

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Obviously they seem to be answering a completely different question. I've now pointed that out to them and asked them to look at this again so they can initiate the reimbursements

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Hi Spencer,

I've requested an urgent update on the situation from the new person at seller support. I will update here when I receive a reply.

You're tagged, so I guess you are still following this, yes?

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Hi Spencer,

I've requested an urgent update on the situation from the new person at seller support. I will update here when I receive a reply.

You're tagged, so I guess you are still following this, yes?

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